10ml Mini. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. I love the smell of dull coat in the morning. <_<. Altough it must be stirred & thinned well to get the best result. Ideal for preparing ABS and Styrene plastic for paint. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. It tries to stink me out and I battle back with dull coat, model master white or metalizers. Stickers were subsequently applied on said cans stating ` don`t use with brushing paint for 7 days`. Just a heads up on some of these labeled cans that may still be in circulation. You can post now and register later. 1-16 of 49 results for "tamiya clear coat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. Looking at your pictures Bill I'm getting a bit of this too, only nowhere near as bad. The one thing you havent mentioned is an 'extender'. Find great deals on eBay for tamiya clear and tamiya clear spray. Or for brushing try … Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :D, General Discussion - NO POLITICS. I love Testors Dull Cote. Paste as plain text instead, × About Tamiya Flat Base, yes like everybody said it's just an additive elements to other gloss paints. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:34 PM UTC. I have been using 2 parts X-21 Flat Base to 3 parts Future as a flat coat for 5 years and it always gives me a perfect dead flat finish with no problems. I don't really reccomend this product. I like the Tamiya sprays by far compared to Army Painter and Citadel (clear coats and primers), but I wish they came in a bigger can. Overall it's much better to spray it on. I hope that Humbrol have sorted out their problems as I once found their products ultra-reliable untill my desert jets came out looking like they`d been covered in (1)snow or (2) paintstripper. ive used krylon matte finish clear coat and also mr clear top coat flat. Our retail location is PICKUP ONLY. Might at least bring some of the color back. 5.0 out of 5 stars. For a small area such as that which you describe, you may wish to see if you can find a bottle of Gunze clear flat acrylic (H-20) which will be far less aggressive. To protect the paint and decals from the lacquer. I've been having a real problem airbrushing various brands of acrylic clear flat coats. We are shipping online orders as usual during the COVID-19 event.   You cannot paste images directly. I did have some Floquil Reefer White yellow after I hit it with Testor Dullcote (in the rattle can) but that was probably more because I didn't let the paint dry long enough. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. I've used Testors dulcote for ever straight from the spray can without much problem.I had 1 hard lesson at first,that it had to be shaken very well first,my finished model was a write off as it turned into totally white dust.I am going to try something Gino suggested on another post.Modelmaster lusterless flat,#1960.I had no idea it existed and I have yet to find it. I have Iso alcohol, or water, and I can get the very small bottles of Tamiya thinner. TS-80 Flat Clear.   Pasted as rich text. On the bench: Dragon flakvierling with armoured cab + AM Works PE, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 01:49 PM UTC. Acrylic paints dry extremely quickly which can cause the frosting effect. The White is actually trapped water vapor. Stupid eats on the other side of the room. I had a small plastic tub (with a lid) of a desert yellow which kept liquid for 2 weeks after I added two drops of extender to the mix. Carefully sand down the coat with a fine grit sand paper/ polishing cloth to cut through the refraction of the flat coat. Are you talking about the spray cans on the stuff in the bottles? 183 Sold. but litter fumes don't kill brain cells, just make you.... :D I hate cats and their smell, plus the damn things shed and hairs get in your models.... anyways, I had to claim my minute of anger. May also be used on Metal Parts. Lusterless Flat Lacquer Clear Coat Testors Customers also viewed these products. It's also a great way of keeping a small amount of any special colors you have mixed in case you need some at the end of the build. But if you want to create some effect for tyres, this flat base can work. My short term memory is getting really bad....and so is my short term memory. Too much Flat Base causes the frosty surfaces. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 01:39 AM UTC. These spray paints were developed especially for decorating transparent polycarbonate bodies used in R/C car modeling. Sometimes even in the cat litter. Beats the crap of out cat........crap. So you are telling me that is designed to work as a mixing agent with other paints...... well on that case I think I am going to stick with testors.... just open all the windows and door before I shoot, woo hoo, another lacquer purist! Thanks to, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:58 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 05:58 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 08:40 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:07 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 11:49 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:23 PM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:53 PM UTC. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:45 AM UTC. Never clogged, and always comes out flat. Top Rated Seller Top Rated Seller. Seems that it's a condition that is the end result of the Tamiya Flat and Future when their is to much humidity in the air. New (11) from $12.75 & … My rule of thumb is: You can paint enamels and acrylics over lacquer, but not lacquers over enamels and acrylics. in which i explore the many legends of this apparently magical way of making yo model shine like a diamond in a goat's ass. March 21, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. Then flat coat with another type of coat. Perhaps you should ask a different question. C $3.27. 100ml of paint. Part Number 85080. Stupid stinks. Testor Dull Coat is good. A slight sheen isn't too bad, but would prefer not to have any...especially on figures. Upload or insert images from URL. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish, NOT Flat Base), what is the best thinning ratio for spraying, and what's the prefered thinner ? Well, that was a waste on an entire day. I don't know if it is as "flat" as Testors, but at least it will be compatible with your color coats. Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 22. But what about yellowing, I've read on this forum where Testors MM dullcote and glosscote turn yellow over time. I have cats and I clean the litter box (thanks the wife for that! ) I did have one jar that tended to leave small white specks on the finish, but that may have been a bad batch as I haven't had that problem with subsequent jars. Now, this is different stuff than MM flat clear. I think the testors dullcote has just a bit more sheen than acryl flat, which i like. Model Master Acryl flat isn't bad either. I don't think accuflex is available any more but you can find similar products in good art or hobby stores under 'extender' or 'retarder'. If you don't have an airbrush, get some Mr Topcoat or another acrylic clear coat for best results. Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. After finsihing decaling, I'm preparing to airbrush my model with a matte finish using Tamiya XF-86 Flat Clear. Customs services and international tracking provided. ... Tamiya TAM87131 Black Planel Line Accent 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,504. Sometimes I got frosty surfaces on the model because of this Dull Coat. I share my building room with stupid the cat. Yes, Thomas, if you mist your model with Future you can save your model. 57. By It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. Shop with confidence. And here's Frankenstein's penguin in all its glory, painted solely using Tamiya brush paints + pastel chalk for weathering and a flat clearcoat sprayed on top. Rush and Pink Floyd are my two favorites bands of all time. I'm interested in what you find that works. A closer look- Testors, Tamiya, Vallejo, and Armory. I absolutely love David Gilmour's guitar work. 3.4oz (100ml) can of Tamiya Color Spray Lacquer for Plastic Models (TS-80 Gloss Clear) For Adult Modelers Only. Unless you have the spray can version, then just shake it well. 4.8 out of 5 stars 382. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. The extender does exactly what it says...extends the drying time to ensure wet paint is hitting the surface. I find anything other than a flat clear coat … × This batch has since been recalled from major retaillers but I have seen a few still on the market in smaller outlets. I ordered some tamiya base and i have a bottle of future to thin it out. 18 product ratings - Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Lacquer just tends to be "hotter" than other types so you have to be careful using it over other paints. Applying clear coat … Greetings all. 1 offer from CDN$41.30. No outright frosting, like you get if you spray Tamiya Flat Base straight, but varying degrees of a dusty layer that looks more like weathering than a clear coat. Clear editor. Does anyone knows the biggest difference between these two? Ive tried MM acryl flat but for me I feel that it is a bit too flat of a coat. Some of these I really haven’t heard too much about being used for BJDs. Testors TENAMEL-1247 Aerosol Enamel Paint, 3 oz, Gloss Black 4.5 out of 5 stars 165. Too little Flat Base have no effect on the paint. Get ready for some science experiments… Testors Clear Coat × I've literally spent my entire day trying to figure out a solution to the white, dusty flat coat quandary. I use it to add some flat to Tamiya Smoke for wheel well weathering. It can be mixed in varying amounts with gloss acrylic (only) paints to produce any desired level of reflectance, including Tamiya clear gloss coat. I'm confused now. In my experience airbrushing it, it dries to the touch within a few minutes, and at about 30 minutes to an hour you can easily apply decals. Make sure to test clear coating over decals before applying to a finished project. Of course, thats all a matter of personal taste! I just ordered a bottle of Tamiya XF86, and will post my findings as soon as I shoot it. The main problem is that no matter what formulas, brands, thinning ratios or ritual dances to the modeling gods I use, I always end up with a finish that makes the model look dusty. See "The Complete Future" thread in the Painting and Airbrushing Forum. the finish is much more noticeable than the krylon in my opinion. Yeah, I was a Humbrol man untill they changed formula and only, initially, advertised it as `new formula`, with no mention of the potential harm it could do if you sprayed it on their own enamel paint. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, Rick, You could look at it the way I do. the effect seems a little less noticeable, and it … If either Clear or Flat Base … Testors dullcoat, what goes underneath it? Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC, Thanks for all the responses thus far. You can spray lacquer over the paint and decals if you do it right. Display as a link instead, × My best success (if you want to call it that) seems to have been with my thinned mixture of Vallejo Model Color Matte Varnish with a couple drops of Liquitex Flo-Aid added. Replied by Phil on topic Tamiya XF-86 flat clear help I've found it ok, not as good as Gunze flat, but I've never had any issue with it drying glossy. I've done some more testing using the suggestions from you all, but unfortunately don't have any real progress to report. As Si said Tamiya Clear is added to matt paint to give a gloss finish and Flat Base is added to gloss paint to give a matt finish. I personally love testors dullcote, and i dont mind the smell, but if you want something friendlier, tamiya will work, just takes some pratice to get the right mix of flat base and clear. X-21 is a flating agent—don't use it straight. TAMIYA PS-55 Flat Clear Polycarbonate Spray 100Ml - 75-T86055. I used one on a `copter and it was fine, next day I used it on a jet and...disaster! That stinks too. Painting polycarbonate bodies is done from the inside of the body shell as opposed to the outside of a traditional plastic model. $12.57 $ 12. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. You should be okay if you do it lightly. or Best Offer. the krylon is cheaper, but a larger can. Each can contains 100ml of paint, which is the appropriate amount for finishing one complete model. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:12 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC. The only conclusion I've come up with is that I want my Polly-S flat coat back. C $12.05; Buy It Now +C $29.74 shipping For my first ever post on Armorama, I'm looking for some troubleshooting assistance. Tamiya acrylic paint, XF-86 Flat clear. The same can be done with Future. The more you add, the flatter it gets. For best results allow up to one week. I don't like Dullcoat either and agree that Polly Scale is the best one out there. I use one drop of Badger Accuflex extender in each airbrush bowl of Testors modelmaster acryl paint. Some people say dont use laquer. If you have any doubt practice on some scrap before using it on your build. (all these acryllic users were making me feel like the last smoker in the bar), ? Always turns out, never failed me yet and been using it for years and years. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. Testors also have one in their product line. just start with a light coat, which will dry very quickly, then a bit heavier on a second coat and that does it. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. FREE Shipping on orders over … level 1 … TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. I use the Testors Model Master Acryl Clear Flat through my airbrush all the time, I do not thin it, I use it straight from bottle through my Paasche VL at about 18-20psi. I would have accepted it was my own fault (as I have made several mistakes with varnishing in the past)in some manner of application, if other modelers and retailers were not reporting the same results. Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. Humbrol matt or satin varnish for me! I haven't used Model Master dull or gloss to know if they yellow over time though. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, but.... would I get the same results as testors? Beware that it requires precision mixing ratio to get the desired flat level. some say to use it. I've never tried it since I still have enough PollyScale flat coat but once I've run out of PollyScale will give XF-86 a bash since I also you Tamiya acrylics. The key is to spray light, mist coats and not soak the surface. Tamiya makes a clear flat paint that you can use instead. I still want to try pollyscale, every review claims to be the flat coat from the gods... would see. I've never used this product before, but my understanding is that it is specifically intended for use as a final coat (and is a different product than Tamiya Flat Base X21.) If only varnishing was so simple...Ahhhh. CDN$15.99. If it's some kind of spray can, you might want to wait longer though, as spray cans mist a lot more paint onto the model and usually take longer to fully cure. Therefore its a battle between me and stupid the cat. Though unfortunately that doesn't really answer your question. Brand New.   Your previous content has been restored. Same thing with their gloss paints. there is nothing wrong with lacquer per se. I can't remember the number, but the Tamiya web site would list it. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:57 PM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:21 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC. Otherwise, you can use Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss mixed with X-21 Flat base to make a suitable acrylic flat coat. You can thin it out about 50/50. Free Shipping by Amazon ... Tamiya TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. A heavy coat gives the solvents more time to attack the other paints. Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :). I also have a few rattle cans of MM laquer. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. The eyes were masked off and got a glossy coat using Tamiya X-22 "Clear Gloss" applied with a brush. Buy It Now. I swore those off many years ago. i much prefer mr clear, but its more expensive for a lesser quantity. Genius! From United States +C … It's readily available here in Australia. Bill,sorry you are having so much trouble.I know it can be frustrating not being ablle to fix a problem.Let me ask you a few questions. <_<. the rattle cans is the same stuff as the bottle, juset that you need to thin the stuff in the bottle before you spray it. I can't speak for the other brands, but I have used the Vallejo Matt Varnish with no problems. 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